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Review : eMachines M5305 Notebook
I have been thinking about getting a notebook for a long time. I wanted one since my dad got his first 486 notebook and my friend Mike's dad had his Powerbook.
I was biding my time and saving my money until I could find an affordable notebook that is much more powerful than my rapidly aging desktop Pentium 3 500mhz PC.
I noticed that eMachines is now making notebooks again. But this time they kick ass and are pretty beefy. So I bit the bullet and found one on sale. Circut City had them with a $250 mail in rebate so I figured I could defiantly afford a thousand bucks without killing my savings account. I have owned a eMachine PC for three years now and I was impressed with the reliability of the hardware.
Sure I feel guilty owning yet another Windows compatible machine but I need to run 3D Studio Max, Maya and other game development tools. While there are great games on Mac they do not have the cross platform support for game development that Wintel PCs have. I have read that using a Windows computer is like eating at McDonalds. Millions do it and you know that there are alternatives that are ultimately more nutritious for you and a vague sense of guilt persists. But you still do it.
The eMachines M5305 notebook sports a 15.4" Widescreen TFT LCD WXGA (1280 x 800 max. resolution) screen that looks crystal clear with no ghosting and is viewable at almost every angle one would want to look at it from. Web page text looks clear and legible as can be and DVDs look like a digital movie projection system.
It is powered by a Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+ Processor (1.800 Ghz). That is right! It is over three times faster than the P3 Desktop PC that I am replacing. Also it has AMD inside instead of Intel.
Also under the hood is a 40 Gig hard Drive and a DVD/CD-RW combo drive. It can read DVDs at 8X and can write CD-Rs at 24X. My only complaint is that there is no other CD burning software besides Windows XP. But after installing Nero Burning ROM from my old PC all is right in the world.
It is packed with 512 Megs of DDR RAM and a ATI Radeon IGP 320M. Now this is not the best chip in the world for hard core gaming but it is nothing to scoff at and it gets good performance without tasking the battery too much or requiring extra cooling systems. It uses shared memory with the main RAM but it is DDR RAM so the graphics bottle neck is not too bad. The digital video and 2d performance is stunning like most ATI chips. The Radeon IGP also handles virtual shifting of lower resolutions on the widescreen. The 1280 x 800 resolution is shaped like a movie theater screen and some TV shaped 3x4 video resolutions need to be filtered on the fly by the Radeon IGP chip. Return to Wolfinstein, Tony Hawk 3 looks good and emulators are a joy to play on this. All the emulators I have run at full emulation speed and full screen including the NeoGeo and Gameboy Advance emulators. But I am not going to beat Peter's un-GODLY Green Notebook but it does not suck.
Now this is a full size notebook and it took we a while to adjust to typing on it but it does not feel cramped at all. There is no floppy disk drive but I didn't want one. The networking is done by a built in 56k modem that I will never use and a 10/100Mbps built-in Ethernet port that I am using now. There is no built in WiFi so I got a Linksys Instant Wireless WiFi card for the Type 1 and 2 PCMCIA Slot. I can't wait to get back to Seattle to try it out. In the back there is some standard notebook ports but there are three USB 2.0 ports. Oh yeah. You see I have an external 60 gig USB 2.0 drive that is as fast as Firewire. That is a feature that really sold me on this laptop.
The form factor quite nice for a full size notebook and it is mostly quiet with the exception for a single fan. It has a touch panel with a scroll area but I plan on using my USB mouse for most hard work and my Microsoft Natural Pro Keyboard for hard core typing. The blue running lights are a nice touch as are the physical volume control shortcut buttons next to the power switch.
You can watch a two and a half hour movie in the Lithium battery but you can get about three hours working off the harddrive and no optical drive use. I guess that big ass screen does take juice to keep lit. I might get another battery later on but I am happy with the current power consumption and heating.
It came with a basic set of software. It runs Windows XP Home and I am getting over that fact and come to terms with it. Rather than having to pay for MS Word they included MS Works and I don't want to take the effort to learn it so I installed Open Office for Windows and am typing this in it right now. Also I would prefer to use Mozilla Mail and Browser instead of Outlook and Internet Explorer. There is Microsoft Money 2003 and I don't think I trust Microsoft enough to have access to my financial history and provide the security for financial transactions right yet.
Once I transfer all my data over and can clean it up Anna is going to get my older P3 PC and monitor and Gavin is going to get my Sony Palm OS PDA.
Update: Here is more on the video chipset
For a thousand bucks this is the ultimate combination of power and price without being cheep. There have been a bunch of things about notebooks that I have liked such as the non CRT flat screen and the SciFi like portability and compactness. They feel like something out of a William Gibson book and less like a vacuum cleaner combined with a TV. This thing is out of the farking future.
Jake at May 20, 2003
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I wish i had running lights to use the "thing" in the dark. it is the one gripe i have...i want more cool lights to make my laptop cooler....more matrix-esque. I looked at a compaq that had REALLY COOL lights on the face of the keyboard and it was super cool but it didnt have what i wanted so i didnt buy it...anyway...
read the comments from the last post and stop this android charade you have going! Stop pretending you are in Rhode Island it is just a matter of time before the world finds out your dark secret.
Posted by: pete at May 20, 2003 11:03 PM
Brill lapper. :p
My P266MMX laptop served me well for a few years before I got a K6-2/500 which was average til 2002 when I sold it and got my 1.3 Duron. :)
Posted by: l33t k1w1 at May 21, 2003 12:00 AM
i also wish i had a widescreen like Jake does. It looks really cool in the picture. I think these emachines must be the best value on the market to date for mobile computing solutions. You can always run it dual boot Jake....my friend Jed had a Dell that he would run Linux on and it worked well as a dual boot machine so it is something you may want to consider in the future. I really liked thier "x-windows" and the Gimp as well.
I am just glad that you are free from the tyranny of the desktop.
Posted by: pete at May 21, 2003 9:09 AM
Too bad you wont be going to the concert by the way. I am going because the tickets are only 42.00 apiece. If you change your mind let me know.
Posted by: pete at May 21, 2003 9:11 AM
looks very cool :) sounds even cooler ;) (is that a word?? lol)
Posted by: Lilly at May 21, 2003 9:34 AM
I was trying to find this notebook computer at Best Buy, but they don't carry it. The best deals that I am seeing at this moment are Circuit City offering a $100 rebate. What state do you live in? Do you know of anywhere else that I could get it for cheaper????
Posted by: Keevin at June 8, 2003 2:22 PM
Your right it was Circut City. I also looked at Best Buy but they only had this at Circut City. I changed it. Sorry about that. I am in Washington State. I don't know of any places where you would get it cheeper.
Posted by: Jake at June 8, 2003 4:09 PM
Does anyone know what resolutions this laptop can offer when hooked up to a monitor?
Posted by: Brian at June 9, 2003 1:09 PM
I am note sure because I do not have a monitor to test it out but I believe that it can do any resolution from 640X480 up to what ever resolution the monitor can handle. Since it uses shared DDR memory it has a lot of memory to pull from but it is not as fast as dedicated memory for games
Posted by: Jake at June 9, 2003 1:23 PM
you can find this laptop at costco
Posted by: ehops at June 10, 2003 3:29 PM
I've loaded it dual-boot with RedHat 9 with mixed results as documented on my "name click" URL.
Posted by: Rich at June 12, 2003 7:59 AM
You can buy this emachine at Ebay for about $200-$300 cheeper. We currently have it in stock for $1000 brand new
Posted by: PDN enterprises at June 26, 2003 6:13 AM
I just got my refund check in the mail so this only cost me $ 1,000. I am skeptical on buying computer equipment on Ebay. I have read about too many scams to spend over a hundred bucks on any item on Ebay.
Posted by: Jake at June 26, 2003 8:53 AM
Can only get half my games to work on emachine laptop .... they all work on my toshiba P4 .... any suggestions?
Posted by: Donna at July 5, 2003 7:28 PM
What do you mean not work? Are they crashing or not running at a decent frame rate?
Posted by: Jake at July 5, 2003 7:36 PM
Best Buy just started selling the M5305 for $1199. I got mine for $950 after a $100 best buy rebate and a $150 emachines rebate. For the price you can't beat all you get. I am not a hardcore gamer so any shortcommings in the graphics card and 1.8 processer are not affecting me. The screen is the best I've ever without spending $2000+. I just hope it will be a reliable machine. Very happy so far.
Posted by: Kevin at July 7, 2003 2:08 AM
Best Buy just started selling the M5305 for $1199. I got mine for $950 after a $100 best buy rebate and a $150 emachines rebate. For the price you can't beat all you get. I am not a hardcore gamer so any shortcommings in the graphics card and 1.8 processer are not affecting me. The screen is the best I've ever without spending $2000+. I just hope it will be a reliable machine. Very happy so far.
Posted by: Kevin at July 7, 2003 2:08 AM
Best Buy has it now for $1,000 with a $150 rebate, so $850 final price. I shall be picking mine up today.
Posted by: Jason Cook at September 2, 2003 6:31 AM
Just purchased a M5310...it is awesome!!!! any other comments???
Posted by: Mel at September 11, 2003 6:17 AM
Hey, everyone zip over and eyeball the Sotec Afina white-version of the eMachines M5xxx series with DVD-RW burner & TV Tuner built-in!
Talk about getting a stripped down laptop for the US models!
Write eMachines today and ask them for a 'White' Xmas!!! =)
Posted by: Dave at November 8, 2003 11:34 PM
Interesting. They are asking about $1,700 for it before tax and there is half the RAM, a larger Hard Drive and No Wifi. I could get an external DVD burner using USB 2 if I wanted to and get a USB2 based video system but that is interesting to see a customised version. I Know that eMachines does sell PCs in Japan so it would be intersting to know how they relate to this company. I do love Japanese notebook PCs.
Posted by: Jake at November 9, 2003 12:21 AM
I could not DISAGREE with the good review more. This laptop is badly flawed. The battery housing is prone to accidental ejection of the battery, the keyboard has an awchward layout, the computer gets real hot, the touch pad gets actuated with the slightest pressure on the front panel where you rest your wrist...
DO NOT BUY THIS COMPUTER UNLESS YOU CAN'T AFFORD ONE FROM MORE ESTABLISHED MANUFACTURERS
Posted by: Joe at February 19, 2004 12:10 PM
The battery has never dropped out on me, I have no problem typing on the keyboard, It does not get hot when it is running on battery but it is nowhere near as hot as a P4 laptop. I actually know how to use a notebook with a track pad so it is not a problem with me.
Emachines is the third largest PC maker in the US and Gateway is trying to buy them.
I would still get an Emachines notebook and I will again in the future.
Posted by: Jake at February 19, 2004 12:14 PM
Great review! I am going to be buying the eMachine M5312 model. I will be using it for manipulating photos and MP3 storage!
Posted by: Shea at February 21, 2004 1:49 PM
A warning for linux users:
HEAT PROBLEMS DURING LONG COMPILES!
I have gentoo on my m5305 with almost everything working (minus power management and suspend/sleep). I have been using it for about 6 months now, and I have one major gripe:
When compiling large CPU-optimized pieces of code, the HD and CPU produce enough heat to flat out shut the system down! I can not compile an optimized version ov gcc3.3.3 or recompile xfree86 to take advantage of the CPU. If you ever looked at th heat sink, you will laugh. They should have some vents on the left wrist-rest area to air out the harddrive, also. I would have put swaped the locations of the HD and cdrw, put the power and svid on the side, and added another fan in the back. Anyone else experience these types of issues?
Posted by: jason at February 22, 2004 12:56 PM
I have not had overheating issues with this notebook. The notebook is not designed to run Linux. It can but it is not tested and Linux might not take full advantage of the mobile AMD Athlon.
Posted by: Jake at February 23, 2004 4:40 PM
I just ordered a M5312 and I'm really looking foward to be free of the desk (I have a 2.8 P4 desktop) and being wireless. I would be lying if I wasn't somewhat worried about the build quality and reliability of an emachines PC...but I'm open to new ideas. Duel boot with XP/Linux is the way to go.
Posted by: paul at March 9, 2004 11:46 AM
I have found eMachines to be very reliable. I have used them four four years straight and have never had a major problem.
Posted by: Jake at March 9, 2004 12:07 PM
I also am having huge heat problems with this machine. But I'm not doing anything as complex as compiling code -- just routine home computer use. It cuts out on me all the time. Real problem.
Anybody have any ideas about how to cope? Or is it time to junk the thing and switch to Apple?
Posted by: Barry at April 10, 2004 11:25 PM
Are you talking about crashing or it locking up? You should use it in a normal average heated room and not cover the air fan port. If you do it will overheat and shut down.
Posted by: Jake of 8bitjoystick.com at April 11, 2004 12:54 PM
I finally found a easy fix for the heat shut down problem. If you're past warranty (which is likely when the heat sink really becomes a problem) Just blow out the dust. I read this somewhere else. The guy advised once weekly. You might have to open the thing up and get in there. After having shut downs that progressively got worse (15m of just running word) it hasn't shut down yet. Given I haven't run a biggassed game on it but have done as close as I could. (DVD, and any silly program I could start up)
It's not a total fix, but will due until I find where the get the replacement heatsink/fan
Posted by: martin Wright at April 20, 2004 7:08 PM
Interesting article and posts. I just ordered a refurb'd M5312 with extra 1yr warranty, so i'm looking forward to it.
To the guy or anyone asking about Powerbooks, all I can say is if you're used to Windows and expect that type of experience, then save your money. However, if you really wanna see what happens when you engineer a product, not just for technical excellence, but for asthetic excellence as well, then get a Mac. I've had two Tibooks so far and got quite a few family and friends to get them and they are all very happy. My latest Tibook is the best computer I've ever owned and I've had all kinds of different machines over the years.
That said, I'm a developer and I miss Linux. I've been using it since '96 and there's just something about it that I love. I love my Mac, but miss the Linux box. So the M5312 should be a great laptop for it. Sure, compiling kernel's is gonna make it hot, but that's Athlon's for ya - they're a hot cpu. And honestly, Gentoo pre-compiled kernels are pretty good. I used to hotrod my Gentoo installs and tweak them to the max. But after a while it just took too long (hours sometimes for xfree) and they borderlined on being somewhat unstable. When I backed out to the pre-compiled kernel & base packages (which they optimize already) then I had a pretty good combo.
Like I said, I'm looking forward to my 5312 running Linux (I'll maybe dual boot w/XP, but the home version that comes w/it is pretty weak) and for anyone else looking, believe me, I spent *a lot* of time looking and the emachines laptops are the best price/performace machines out there. Second on my list of x86 laptops would prob be Fujitsu.
Posted by: Jay at April 22, 2004 5:44 PM
I've had mine for nearly seven months, seems to work just fine with the exception of overheating and certain combinations of floating point operations. The heat issue kicks in if you are doing long term hard drive operations or cpu intensive operations. I tend to prop my laptop off of desk to give it some extra air cooling surface. Taking it apart regularly may not be such a good idea since laptop screws are designed to be a little tighter thathe holes, some even self tap (carve into the plastic). When you constantly remove and add them they will become loose on just normal wear. Vacuuming out the cooling fan helps a ton. Also when putting linux on, you can easily shrink the NTFS partition and put on Red Hat, but apparently there are some customizations to get it running fully: http://home.nc.rr.com/mitchel/Linux-on-the-eMachines-M5305.html On the flip side there is a great tool at http://www.sysresccd.org that will boot from CD and works perfectly with the hardware, including ethernet.
Just a note
Andre
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i have a m5305.and i hate it.i had to send it back the first month i had it because the mother board went out.it DOSE heat up big time.it locks up and cuts out all the time.iv sent it in 3 times.customer service is terrible to deal with.alot of attitudes and no call backs.the battery only held an hour not pluged in from day one.the cd plays when it wants to.the battery is ALWAYS falling out.emachine costomer rep told me it was a major problem with the battery and they changed it the next model.needless to say i hate my emachine laptop and would never own another.i dont do anything big on it.just use to email freinds and famialy.it does have a good clear monitor.other then that i havent anything else good to say about it.i would and do tell everyone i know not to buy one.
Posted by: dave michaels at October 1, 2005 12:51 AM
I have the emachine M5310 and am completely frustrated with it. The machine works GREAT until it overheats and shuts the computer down at the worst possible times. There is only 1 fan on the entire laptop and it is not nearlt adequate to dissapate the heat produced by the AMD processor that typically runs hotter than intel. I had to pull the CD Rom out and blow a fan directly into the hole to keep it from shutting down in my lap. I've recently thought about getting a cooling pad for it and seeing if that helps. I love the computer when it runs but am getting intolerant of it's increasing failure.
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